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Post by chewy Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:44 pm

Anytime suits me, I just need to check the times afro
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Post by Brentton Sat Oct 17, 2015 11:46 am

Wow what defense sparky, I don't see how I didn't win that by 20 points. Look at those stats!

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Post by ivelostmysparky Sat Oct 17, 2015 11:58 am

Yep defense is my speciality - I should have got flogged by 20 points minimum. Nice turnaround from 2 days ago.

Panth - Brent won the rematch at his place so he finished 3rd. I think if overseas teams have to play away in pool play then that should continue for the playoffs portion also. On the matter of anytime times - whatever is easiest - I suppose you want to make all games kick off at the same time - so you want a time to suit everyone?
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Post by Pantherus Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:07 am

OK I'll put Brent into 3rd.

Happy to force the foreign=away rule permanently. Question - what about if BOTH teams are foreign?

Yes we want the anytime matches to all be at the same time. As I said - Bren originally advised 2:35pm as that's what he used to do; while I started at 7:35 and slowly worked the standard back after continuous conflicts kept stopping the fixture creation.
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Post by ivelostmysparky Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:58 am

If both teams are foreign then use what you normally use to decide the home team. For k/o times I would try 5:35, but if that fails 2:35 is fine.
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Post by Pantherus Tue Oct 20, 2015 2:04 pm

Got the final standings done but need to reformat them to fit here or get the display working on the site - hope it won't take too long. Trophies will also be distributed in due course.

Thanks to everyone for sticking with me on a tough season, I'm sure it'll be smoother next season as I work out the kinks.

Feedback is very welcome on any ways to improve things.
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Post by aius Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:23 pm

Thanks pantherus. Good competition like normal

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Post by Pantherus Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:38 pm

SeedPlaceDiff.TeamTrophy
21+1Hercufleas UnitedNZI Championship Winner
32+1Norse Viking'sNZI Championship Runner-Up
63+3OkaiawaNZI Championship 3rd Place
54+1Wroclaw Catfish Crusaders
15-4Melville RFC
126+6Innocent Dingo's
97+2Elbanditos
78-1Los Lobo
139+4Piss ArtistsNZI Championship Shield Winner
1610+6St Oak Stabbers
1011-1Mud Dogs
412-8Monkey Nuts
1513+2Napier Cavaliers
1114-3King's XV
815-7Gunslingers
1416-2Te Puke ThunderNZI Championship Wooden Spoon
2117+4WesternNZI Premiership Winner
2618+8ShowtimeNZI Premiership Runner-Up
1719-2Green Bay GremlinsNZI Premiership 3rd Place
1920-1Mean Team
2921+8Wetaskiwin Wolves
1822-4Carnage
2723+4Varangian Guards
2524+1Old McDonald Had A Farm
2025-5Hamilton RevolutronNZI Premiership Shield Winner
2826+2Arctic Wolves
2427-3Binge-drinking Ballbags
2228-6Aidan's Sports Academy
2329-6Nakuru R.F.C
3130+1Mercury Bay
3031-1Maungati Mainlanders
32320Waikato WarriorsNZI Premiership Wooden Spoon
4233+9Macandrew Bay ThirdsNZI ECC Winner
3634+2Bald Eagle BombersNZI ECC Runner-Up
3335-2Meadowbank TigersNZI ECC 3rd Place
4636+10Auckland Katipos R.F.C.
4037+3Red And White
38380Tasman Tigers
4439+5Belfast Cobras
3440-6Fairweather Assasins
4541+4House Park RFCNZI ECC Shield Winner
3942-3Waimea Old Boys
4143-2Goneburger
4744+3Waiuku Psycho Beavers
3545-10Broad Spur Suns
4346-3All Bricks
3747-10Battalion
48480Southern Allstars
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Post by Pantherus Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:42 pm

Trophies have been awarded.

Congratulations to everyone and thank you for taking part, whatever the outcome.
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Post by ivelostmysparky Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:36 pm

Could you remind me how QF/SF match ups are decided, and who gets HGA?
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Post by Pantherus Wed Oct 21, 2015 1:01 pm

QF are done much like the RWC with 1st in one pool playing 2nd in another pool, etc.

SF and GF are tiered and randomised.
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Post by Shaun51 Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:20 pm

Cheers Panthers for running this competition again! Was good to have the NZI back!

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Post by donkeysaint Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:05 am

Hi!

I just realised my team was the one with the best difference between pre-comp seed and final position. Well done, me! Smile Wink



Thanks Panterhus for doing this!
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Post by Pantherus Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:16 am

holy shit - is it Round 16 already??

I gotta get to work on next season's signups...
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Post by Pantherus Fri May 06, 2016 10:33 am

6 rounds done and dusted so far.

I need to get to work on preparing playoff fixtures...
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Post by chewy Fri May 06, 2016 12:16 pm

Ripped off the Norse Vikings in the last play Wink
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Post by Pantherus Mon May 09, 2016 10:57 am

Thoughts on changing Bonus Point rules for the NZI to those used by Super Rugby?
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Post by Bren Mon May 09, 2016 2:39 pm

I'd +1 it. I was against it at first (IRL) but I've flip flopped on the issue.
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Post by Pantherus Mon May 09, 2016 2:49 pm

Mmm - shouldn't be an issue, just adjust the bonus point parts of the script and then re-run the standing calculations.

Just to clarify - change is that now, the winning scores a bonus point if they score 3 tries MORE than the opposition.

You CANNOT score a bonus point if you lose, or draw, the game.

Correct?
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Post by Bren Mon May 09, 2016 3:02 pm

It's an unlikely situation but I do think it's possible for a losing or drawing team to pick up a bonus point.

Quote from the official web site.

The four try try bonus point to be replaced by a bonus point that is awarded for finishing three or more tries ahead of your opponent (bonus point for losing by 7 or fewer points remains unchanged).

http://www.superxv.com/sanzaar-confirm-new-referees-and-bonus-points/

It doesn't mention anything about the team picking up the try bonus point needing to actually win the game to get it.
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Post by Pantherus Mon May 09, 2016 3:14 pm

Ah OK - so a team can score 3 tries and lose to the team who kicked penalties all day, but still get the bonus point
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Post by chewy Mon May 09, 2016 4:19 pm

3 tries more than your opposition
2 for a draw
1 for losing within 7 and one for scoring 3 or more tries than your opposition in a losing effort.(not 100% sure on bolded)

I didn't know about this - "In addition Penalty options after time has expired to now include playing a lineout."
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Post by chewy Mon May 09, 2016 4:22 pm

Pantherus wrote:Ah OK - so a team can score 3 tries and lose to the team who kicked penalties all day, but still get the bonus point
can they get two bonus points? Must be if finish within 7. What about a draw, if one team scores three more tries than the other but still draw? Is that 3 points? lol!
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Post by Bren Mon May 09, 2016 4:33 pm

The French do it slightly differently.You need to win to get the try bonus point.

Under that system it's impossible to get two bonus points (or to get any bonus points from a draw). I'm still pretty sure that Super Rugby don't require a win to get the bonus point though this hasn't happened yet.

Chewy wrote:I didn't know about this - "In addition Penalty options after time has expired to now include playing a lineout."

I've seen it happen at least once this season. I like it, offers a better platform for an attack than taking the tap. It also means that giving away a penalty at the end of the game is a bigger deal in a close game -- especially if the losing team is on the wrong side of the field.
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Post by ivelostmysparky Mon May 09, 2016 6:56 pm

For teams that have the BP or BP is out of reach, if they have a penalty after FT they have to take the tap and then kick it out to end the game. I've seen that a few times this year.
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