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Pantherus wrote:As usual, people shockingly don't consider the wider ramifications of changes they push for

Pantherus wrote:As usual, people shockingly don't consider the wider ramifications of changes they push for

Should you keep 17yos in your academy or promote straight away?

The results are in. 8 out of 10 players that I was tracking in my L3 YA took exactly 5 weeks for their skills (range from 4 to 12) to pop. There doesn't seem to be any slow down in training rate as you head towards the 14 limit, and I presume the 2 players that didn't pop (with 13 skill level) will pop to 14 in the Sunday YA game (update - 1 did).

So how does 4xYA sessions @ 5 weeks compare to L4 and L5 senior training?
L4:
3x IT = 5/6 weeks
2x IT + 1xTT = 6/7
2x IT = 8/9
1x IT + 1xTT = 10/11
L5: Take off one week from L4 times.

Now to normalise pop times into pops per season for a fair comparison, apples with apples if you like.
YA = 12.8 pops/season
(16 weeks/5 weeks to pop = 3.2, and 3.2 x4 YA sessions = 12.8 )

And how does this compare to L4 and L5 senior training? well that depends on their training regime.
Cross = 12.1 pops/season (Activist's player on L4 for his current regime)
Sailer = 11.8 (my player on L4)
Kunavore = 13.4 (my player at my L5 USA club on his current regime).


So what does this all mean? there is no clear cut answer as broadly 4x L3 YA sessions = 10x L4or5 sessions for the limited data that I have. But as you can train a hell of a lot of kids in your academy at once, and it frees up senior training sessions, I'd recommend keeping players in the YA until a few of their core skills (for whatever position you are training them for) hit 14.

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Always LTNT for experience bonus. Rating stars don't mean that much.
I'm pretty sure we talked about this on the old OS, but it can be feasible to train 6 players at once - 3x 19/20yos in seniors and 3x 17/18yos in the YA. This is subject to the players starting skills, positions, what skills you are training etc. YA training stops at 13.99, at lower skills YA training is pretty much equal to senior training at L4 and L5. 

So to maximise the YA output for U20s keep players in the YA for 2 seasons (also saves you paying for their wages) and train 6 at a time with a 3-3 age group split. If you train players that aren't kickers or locks (or props depending on what skills you value) this is rather easy to do. To maximise profit sell 17yos with early season (<R6) birthdays, otherwise keep them in the academy. Height (205cm+) sells for big money, and to lesser extent weight.