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Post by Activist Mon May 01, 2017 10:13 am

Hey P, I got 4 new fixtures but also two away games v shapeshifters, is there supposed to be one for me at home?

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Post by Pantherus Mon May 01, 2017 10:24 am

No, you're a foreign team so all fixtures should be played away
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Post by dazz43 Wed May 03, 2017 10:17 pm

4 losses followed by 4 victories the Los Lobo what can i say

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Post by chewy Thu May 04, 2017 9:38 pm

How did I touch you up rob? Question
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Post by robelix Thu May 04, 2017 11:01 pm

everyone seems to have my number in the NZI.... No

I think everyone has their tactics set out to goad me into giving away penalties... Suspect
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Post by Activist Mon May 08, 2017 1:24 pm

@P @Sparky

Those two fixtures that were created last week vs Shapeshifter, here are the results:

Shapeshifter 20-18 Welcome Bay Bandits
Shapeshifter 9-16 Welcome Bay Bandits

Cheers gents

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Post by Pantherus Mon May 08, 2017 2:23 pm

Got them - cheers
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Post by trippa Thu May 11, 2017 12:38 pm

Is the points table up to date?? Just noticed you have Welcome Bay Bandits as having no losses??

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Post by Pantherus Thu May 11, 2017 12:59 pm

Refreshed them - thanks for the reminder. WBB have a loss registered now.
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Post by ivelostmysparky Thu May 11, 2017 5:32 pm

robelix wrote:everyone seems to have my number in the NZI.... No

I think everyone has their tactics set out to goad me into giving away penalties... Suspect

You've still got to sort out your rucking rob. Losing the turnover count 7-3 and "winning" the penalties conceded count  18-5 against me was pretty terrible, and you'll always struggle if that was a normal situation for your team. Aggression choices with player tech and discipline are the obvious things but also look at weight too - you gave me a 100kg advantage in the pack and 13kgs per player. Bigger is always better in the BR world.
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Post by robelix Mon May 15, 2017 2:37 pm

yes, it is a real Achilles heel when teams actively try to exploit my reckless behaviour - any suggestions on what tactics I could try?

I generally go for by the book....but I can still get punished in the penalties/turnovers when teams play against my reckless style (I wonder what they actually do? some decent png with normal/aggressive discipline?

im trialling a few things lately...like kicking for territory from my own half more often....on occasions where I have played my aggressive discipline, I really suffer against teams who play btb...If I try to tactics that avoid my forwards too much, then I don't get to build much pressure and get few line-breaks...


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Post by tryasta Mon May 15, 2017 6:38 pm

Playing BTB won't be of much use if people can maul you off the park. You will concede penalties anyway.

To avoid that:

1.- get better disciplined players Wink
2.- max up their technique (you can't really overestimate the importance of this)
3.- beef up your forward pack. Buy them McDonald's premium subscriptions or things like that.

Regarding tactics: if you need to play BTB to avoid giving penalties away, then you are left with only risky choices.

In defense: you don't want to play drift + BTB. It is not a good combination. Trust me, it is not. In theory, these two could work well as you keep your line unbroken and wait one phase after another for the opponent to concede penalties. In reality, with 3 or 4 phases, the amount of conceded ground is so big that you are already defending inside your 22 and the opponent can either score or you will kick it out and he will start over again.

Therefore in defense you need to consider rushing them if you are to play BTB. Playing rush requires having both a very very very good stamina and a good defense. You also need good subs as well.

In attack you will either give penalties away or play BTB and lose possession. Therefore you want to play high risk tactics. You need to be the master of creative. Creative is interesting because of both the probability of linebreak and because of the amount of meters gained being greater than with any other attack type.

I personally do not recommend kicking the ball out/away. Especially if your discipline is bad.

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Post by ivelostmysparky Tue May 16, 2017 11:23 am

Tryasta makes some good suggestions. The btb button isn't some magical instant-fix for bad discipline forwards and/or players with poor tech.
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Post by robelix Wed May 17, 2017 4:26 pm

my technique isn't actually all that bad...from players 1-8 it is 18, 19, 19, 17, 17, 20, 18, 20.

good advice on the btb...will be taking that on board I know I have way too many reckless players, but it is difficult to get rid of them and bring in better disciplined players. my goal will be to let the reckless players slowly disappear and make sure their replacements are much better disciplined! (doesn't help that my 2 x u20 players are both reckless) Rolling Eyes
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Post by tryasta Wed May 17, 2017 8:09 pm

Remember: ill disciplined backs are not nearly as bad as ill disciplined forwards. The priority are loosies, front rowers and locks, in that order.
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Post by ivelostmysparky Wed May 17, 2017 8:37 pm

But can your backs ruck? One of mine can't (7 tech) but the rest are 12-16.
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Post by robelix Thu May 18, 2017 8:04 am

pretty average (maybe below?)....some good some bad...
from 9 to 15 technique is... 11, 7, 6, 7, 18, 16, 13
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Post by ivelostmysparky Thu May 18, 2017 7:49 pm

Yeah pretty average I'd guess. That would turn the attention back onto your reckless forwards and aggression tactics.
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Post by robelix Fri May 19, 2017 9:07 am

anyway....another week, another NZI loss.... scratch scratch

tried to play more aggressively...which worked well in the first half (lead 20-9)...but ended up losing 27-25 (overall, lost the penalties 17-9, won the turnovers 8-3).

I think I would do a lot better with a massive lock, as im losing the set pieces way too much....I think my loss in form ties in with the loss of Nasoni Whakapapa...(even though he was rebellious)
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Post by Activist Sat May 20, 2017 7:12 pm

@P

Green Bay Gremlins 12-40 Welcome Bay Bandits

Score of the extra fixture that didn't happen when fixtures were created.

Cheers boss.

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Post by ivelostmysparky Sun May 21, 2017 7:34 pm

I'm starting to prepare for next season's NZI.

Managers who played this season:
Herbgilla
Tharbridge
kruizey
dazz43
Shaun51
Sole136
Innocent Dingo
BigA
fishy
robelix
ivelostmysparky
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getitwide
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captainkidd
TePukeThunder
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DeanZ
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Timmy_11
SwazBro
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mophunc
tryasta
TonyB
j_guich
Boydy6
Will get a PM soon.

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Can you clear the sign up list and provide a link to it? (I don't know which one to use)
Then I'll PM the above managers and make a post in the BR NZ clubrooms with a link to the sign up list.
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Post by Pantherus Mon May 22, 2017 3:03 pm

Signups cleared.

http://pantherus.blackoutrugby.com/pantherus/nzi/signups.php

WBB fixtures finished up - should be OK now...?
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Post by ivelostmysparky Mon May 22, 2017 8:31 pm

PMs send and post made in the clubrooms. Now we sit back and watch the sign ups roll in. Sign ups close in 2 weeks or so.

NOTE: Only 1 team per manager is allowed this season. It makes it easier to sort the teams into tiers.
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Post by Pantherus Wed May 24, 2017 1:13 pm

Cheers man.
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Post by Brentton Thu May 25, 2017 7:10 pm

Home final for me Sparky!

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